The conversation with the guru can be very confusing because although it may seem to happen in words, it utterly happens from within, flowing from the inner depths of the spirit to the surface. Yet we keep talking to ourselves on the surface and we end up getting caught in that endless reflective hall of mirrors that is the mind.
The meaning of what I say is not contained in words that fly across the room, hit your ears, and trigger your mind. Our dialog takes place at the lowest levels of being and is immediate. The words happen afterwards, and are really just like pointers to the truth. That’s why I can talk with you about the most subtle and esoteric concepts using very mundane words, yet you’ll understand exactly what I mean.